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Power Status

Evicted: Kyle 5-0

Head of Household: Michael
Original noms: Alyssa, Terrance
Veto winner/outcome: TBA
Final noms: TBA
Evicted: TBA


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Ratings Watch
Thursday's live show won the hour with 0.7 rating and 3.494 million viewers, ahead of College Football on FOX with 0.7/3.167, Generation Gap on ABC wth 0.3/2.438, and Law and Order SVU rerun on NBC with 0.2/2.090.

Wednesday's show won the hour with 0.7 rating and 3.571 million viewers, ahead of America's Got Talent on NBC with 0.5/5.195, MasterChef on FOX with 0.3/2.006, and The Conners and The Goldbergs reruns on ABC with 0.2/1.845 and 0.2/1.254.
 
Overnight rating: adults 18-49, percent of all TV households



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Daily Feeds Recaps

Day 59 - Friday - September 2, 2022

Michael got his room around 1am. He had another letter from Hayden, more hard cider, and music by Katy Perry, along with the usual huge assortment of clothes, toiletries, and snacks. If you don't watch these HOH room segments on feeds, you may not be aware how very many food items they get. Even the HOH mini fridge and freezer are packed Tetris-solid. He held his meetings after that. His target is Terrance and he'll put her up with Alyssa, with Turner as post-veto pawn if needed. Alyssa dropped the Pound's name in her meeting but Michael didn't do anything with that, yet. Thanks to @Dolffica for staying up for all that.

Michael nominated Alyssa and Terrance, as planned. Apparently Terrance refused to hug Taylor after the ceremony. Feeds came back to Terrance rehashing to Michael in HOH, and Taylor told Alyssa she'll "fight tooth and nail" to keep her in the house. Alyssa and Turner went off for a few moments where Turner told Alyssa she wasn't the target, and Alyssa said she'd been told that by Michael, and Turner said "you have my vote til the frickin end." Turner then reiterated that with "I will never vote you out of this house," Alyssa said "thank you, and I give you my word not to do the same, ever" and they parted with a hug. Alyssa then met with Monte, and said she was still struggling with learning how much Kyle had lied to her.

Terrance continued filibustering to Michael and saying things like "I just can't wrap my head around playing this way" and "morals and value-wise, I just lost a lot of respect and integrity for the movement of how everything is going right now." Terrance retold to Alyssa and Monte, with a number of F-bombs, saying "I promise you this game is gonna be played from a different perspective in jury," and he blamed Taylor for telling Michael that he'd been working to keep Kyle. Michael retold to Brittany, Turner, Taylor that Terrance had "threatened to taint the jury against me, basically." Michael then told Turner that Terrance had tried to imply the idea to backdoor him (Michael) last week was Turner's idea, and Turner said no, it was Terrance pushing that. (No, it was Turner, with both Terrance and Monte fully on board.)

Michael cleaned out the kitchen fridge of outdated food, with Brittany and Turner pitching in. Alyssa and Brittany cleaned out the pantry of rotting fruit, and talked about their chances at finals, should they get there. Michael joined and told them about Terrance's threats to poison the jury. He acknowledged Terrance was in his feelings after noms and said he'll give him space but wants to talk to him some more. Michael, Monte, Taylor, Turner played a game of Chinese checkers. Terrance finally emerged from his room to get something to eat. He seemed calmed down, but was very subdued, and returned to his bed afterwards. In short, another rip-roaring Friday night in the habitat.

Brittany and Turner strung up some more of the Brochella streamers, since there was nothing else to do and, as I've noted before, this group has very little imagination or incentive as far as coming up with activities. Terrance and Monte whisper-ranted to each other about Michael and Brittany, and Taylor, for awhile, repeating their same loops. Turner asked Michael if he could use the HOH shower and Michael said sure, "prove Zingbot wrong." Any or all of them might get up to something later on but I had my fill of the nothing, and checked out early.

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Day 58 - Thursday - September 1, 2022

10am wakeup comes early for this group, as it does many seasons, which is an interesting phenomenon. BB USA often happens overnight, with a core group staying up until and even past the wee hours. We know some folks are night people and some are morning people, and I've always wondered how many of us would shift around to a more nocturnal schedule if there weren't life circumstances or restrictions preventing it. Hamsters almost always do just that. I know I would.

Kyle paced in his sex lair/Brittany's office/Have-not and worked on his speech aloud. He could have gone with "it was the best of times - in here, it was the worst of times - in here" but he went a different route. Julie released a teaser that Zingbot will visit tonight and the related HOH comp will be a puzzle. She said the zings will be on Sunday's show so I'd guess the comp probably will be too, since zings always precede the comp (which is usually a veto).

The show picked up where it left off last night, with the allegations about Kyle, and discussions among the non-moviegoers on Sunday evening about that between him and Brittany, him and Monte and Terrance, including Terrance choking up as he told Kyle "you made me pull a trigger and this man was telling the truth, it should have been you who left and not Joseph." That was followed by Monte questioning Michael and Brittany's timing to Terrance and Turner, and Turner suggesting the house meeting that happened later that evening. That unfolded much like Kyle's apology tour had which followed, but there weren't any raised voices or heated emotions included in the edit that had been mentioned on the feeds.

The show started with Brittany and Taylor on the block and then Kyle took Brittany's nominee chair after the veto meeting was shown, along with Kyle's apology tour stops with Alyssa and with Monte. Kyle was evicted 5-0 as expected (keeping the civilian first-in curse alive and well), and Julie grilled him about his Cookout 2.0 theory before asking about Alyssa. Julie told them and us Zingbot would be visiting them tonight and she told us next week is a two-hour double eviction show. Then she started them on their HOH comp which was Burning Bot, where they had to transfer puzzle pieces one at a time to a building platform and assemble a two-sided Wicker Man-ish burning Zingbot 3-D puzzle. The comp will finish on Sunday's show, along with the zings.

Feeds returned before Zingbot showed up and Michael had won the HOH. Again. Feeds went away again for them to get zinged. Zingbot was on the balcony in the backyard again, as he/she/it has been since COVID protocols kicked in on BB22. Alyssa, who'd been begging for Zingbot earlier today, didn't like hers, and made a couple comments about it including "nothing like getting roasted by a fake robot in a fake house." Most of them didn't like theirs, except Taylor, and they all seemed surprised by Brittany's and Michael's. As best as I could piece it together, zings were:
-Alyssa's dead weight, and it included "let me say it again so you understand"
-Brittany something about crazy eyes
-Michael's was masks are optional except with a face like his
-Monte's was about his voice, and his impressions, and he's boring
-Taylor has a cold heart
-Terrance is an unknown, underground DJ
-Turner's smelly, doesn't shower (old shtick when he was Have-not)

Michael met briefly with Taylor in the pantry, saying he was dreading the pre-nom meetings since he knew what he planned to do. (I assume that meant sticking with non-Leftovers Alyssa/Terrance, since he'd earlier told Brittany or Taylor he planned to keep his promise to Turner and keep him safe this week in return for Kyle's renom.) He said he'd do them though and maybe pick up some new intel. (There isn't much new intel that isn't already know, except how hard Monte's been gunning for Michael lately. Terrance might spill that tidbit if he feels threatened.) Taylor told him that Alyssa had told her she and Kyle were a real relationship and not just a showmance, and that they'd had sex many times in various places in the house.

I'll catch up Michael's plans and HOH room and etc tomorrow.

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Ratings - TBA edition

Ratings will be updated later, based on entertainment value

Noms count: original/renom


 





Won: $5,000; Week 1 Backstage Pass; Movie guest

HOH 0 - Veto 0 - Noms 2/0
Have-not 1

 






Won: Week 1 Backstage Pass; Week 1 viewer safety vote; Week 5 immunity (HOH Bestie)

HOH 0 - Veto 1 - Co-veto 1 - Noms 2/0
Have-not 0

 






Won: Movie screening

HOH 3 - Veto 4 - Co-veto 1 - Noms 2/0
Have-not 1

 






Won: TBA

HOH 1 - Veto 0 - Noms 2/0
Have-not 1

 






Won: Week 5 surviving Bestie pick; 48 hr Fancy tied to Joseph; Movie guest

HOH 1 - Veto 0 - Noms 2/2
Have-not 0

 






Won: Week 4 surviving Bestie pick; Week 4 immunity (HOH Bestie); 1 week 4.5 days Ink 182 temp tats

HOH 1 - Veto 1 - Noms 4/1
Have-not 1

 






Won: Movie guest

HOH 2 - Veto 0 - Noms 1/0
Have-not 1

 






Won: TBA

HOH 0 - Veto 1 - Co-veto 1 - Noms 0/3
Have-not 1

4th juror - 8th evicted - Day 58

 

Obit to follow




Won: Week 4 immunity (HOH Bestie); 48 hr Skid tied to Taylor

HOH 0 - Veto 0 - Noms 2/0
Have-not 1

3rd juror - 7th evicted - Day 51

 

He often said he hoped this wouldn't be a season with fights and hostilities, and for the most part it wasn't. But it's still a dirty game and he played loyal, even while he was double-dipping, at least until he had no choice among the Dyre Fest outsiders, since Kyle spilled the Leftover beans out there way before he did. He often gametalked for too long, but he was good at creating chaos, and he also had great stories about his childhood and teen adventures. His birthday joined the epic BB birthdays when the Leftovers formed and took aim at the other side, taking them out one by one (with several bonus blindsides) until the split house twist split them up, and he was the first casualty of that. His friendship/flirtmance with Taylor was fun to watch.




Won: Week 3 immunity (HOH Bestie); London trip

HOH 1 - Veto 0 - Noms 1/0
Have-not 1

2nd juror - 6th evicted - Day 51

 

She participated in the early Taylor bashing but eased up on it as her friends left and she lost people to bash with. She was the comic relief of the season in so many ways, from her ridiculous Diary accent and lines, to her twisted ankle that went on and on and on, not to mention her inability to use crutches or cane properly for it. She annoyed many of them as a roommate, she stashed her favorite foods, and she talked incessantly about herself. #JasmineStories sounded like tall tales, especially as they continued to pile up, but her old Twitter account proved quite a few of them were true, or at least had a basis in truth. Her ongoing feud with Turner was a season highlight, especially when he stole half a muffin and she made a federal case about it.




Won: Punkaroo 1 week concerts

HOH 0 - Veto 0 - Noms 2/0
Have-not 1

1st juror - 5th evicted - Day 44

 

She was often loud and often acted more like she was playing BB Brasil than USA, with more attention given to her frequent (loud) shoutouts and camera messages than to the game going on around her. She was another of the early season Taylor haters but it lingered on with Indy after the others left or backed off. Indy was one of the few who confronted Taylor face to face (over soup), but her most vicious was a tirade to Joseph saying she HATES it when he and the guys talk with Taylor. But she was often fun and upbeat, and she was a better sport about her Punkaroo punkitard than most expected. And I always give kudos for non-native English speakers in this game that's based around whispers, conversations, and retells.




Won: Nothing

HOH 1 - Veto 0 - Co-veto 1 - Noms 0/1
Have-not 1

4th evicted - Day 37

 

Day 18 to Taylor: 'Don't speak to me until finale. The thing you did to Paloma you're trying to do to [Nicole], you can fuck right off. You don't think America's watching all that? You don't think so? From here on out do not speak to me. I will never forget what you did to Paloma. You think she didn't spiral because of you? You didn't add to that? And now you're trying to do it to Nicole, mind game. Do not speak to Nicole like that ever again.'
Don't get it twisted. First, mental illness doesn't work that way. Second, Terrance first suggested all that, Nicole planted it in Daniel's head, and he's the one who ran rabid with it, with her urging and blessing. They were peas from the same rotten pod and each fed off the other's vileness. I hope I never hear about either of these Toxic Twins again.




Won: Nothing

HOH 0 - Veto 0 - Noms 0/1
Have-not 1

3rd evicted - Day 30

 

Arrogant, aggressive, entitled, overbearing, self-serving and self-centered. She took over the Taylor hate train when Paloma left and ran it off the rails. She had no redeemable watchable qualities, least of all being entertaining in the slightest. I thought about doing Ozark ratings some week but I lost my Wendy Byrde with her exit. Verbatim quote from this 'superfan': 'They've done something that no other alliance has ever done in this game, in Big Brother history, they created a pact of people to make you think you're safe and say I got your back, and then this [betrayal] happens.' Hello? Welcome to BB.




Won: Nothing

HOH 0 - Veto 0 - Noms 0/1
Have-not 0

2nd evicted - Day 23

 

She was one of the Taylor haters under Paloma's direction, but she kept it up after Paloma's exit, even after Turner referred to it in his noms speech. That was one reason she went on the block as backdoor target and eventual exit, along with Michael and Kyle stressing her general smarts. She pushed for Pooch to go after he volunteered himself, and then she was blindsided when it was her own turn to meet Julie.




Won: Week 1 Backstage Boss/immunity

HOH 0 - Veto 0 - Noms 1/0
Have-not 1

1st evicted - Day 16

 

Volunteering to go on the block is always dicey, but especially as early as he did before any real trust is formed. And now he knows why. He's lucky Julie was COVID-distanced or she might have whacked him. He put all his eggs in a broken Oasis basket, and he irritated a lot of them with his antics and touchy-feely. When Joseph tried to help and warn him about that, he just got mad at Joseph. Like Paloma, he talked constantly and very, very fast. He seems like he's got a good heart so good luck to him from here.




Won: Week 1 Backstage Pass

HOH 0 - Veto 0 - Noms 0/0
Have-not 0

Left the game - Day 8

 

She drove the game at the start, and she ignited and fueled the unjustified Taylor hate which continued to thrive even after she left. When she started to spiral, her conspiracy theories and delusions would have been comical if they weren't indicative of something more serious going on. It was probably best for her to go when she did, and for me - her nonstop superfast talking was stressing me out.




Won: Nothing

HOH 0 - Veto 0 - Noms 0/0
Have-not 0

 

He was replaced pre-season by Joseph, but you can catch him on America's Got Talent and The Circle.





Lines and Links of the Day

Lines

Friday
Terrance: I can't swallow the fuckshit anymore

Alyssa: There was a bunch of bananas and I went to grab them and they all peeled and then they fell on the floor naked

Thursday
Terrance to Kyle [show edit]: You made me pull a trigger and this man was telling the truth, it should have been you who left and not Joseph

Alyssa: Does [Zingbot] always do veto every single time?
Turner and Taylor: Yes
Alyssa: Dammit, I want him now

Alyssa: We literally walked outside, got roasted, and they're like okay go back inside, your job's done

 

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Tally Items

Extracurricular Tally

Flashback times are Pacific/BB time

House meetings: 1
-Day 54 not on feeds/on Sept 1 show

Nominee speech scorchers: 2
-Taylor about Nicole
-Daniel about Michael

Blindside evictions: 2
-Pooch
-Ameerah

Booze deliveries: 17
-Day 1 move-in champagne
-Day 1 Daniel HOH wine
-Day 12 Wine & beer
-Day 16 Turner HOH beer
-Day 23 Monte HOH beer
-Day 26 Wine & beer
-Day 30 Michael HOH hard cider
-Day 33 Wine & beer
-Day 35 Wine & beer
-Day 37 Taylor HOH hard cider
-Day 40 Wine & hard seltzer
-Day 43 Wine & beer halfway party
-Day 44 Big Brochella beer
-Day 44 Michael HOH hard cider
-Day 47 Big Brochella beer & margaritas
-Day 51 Turner HOH beer
-Day 58 Michael HOH hard cider

(Day 9 Jasmine HOH? maybe)

Minor fights: 1
-Day 30 Daniel vs Monte (8/7 show)

Makeout pairings: 1
-Alyssa/Kyle

Sex events: 5
-Day 38 Alyssa/Kyle (retell 8/14 1.59pm)
-Day 41 Alyssa/Kyle ('10 seconds' 8/15 5.44pm)
-Day 42 Alyssa/Kyle (another '10 seconds' 8/17 2.59am)
-Day 57 Alyssa/Kyle (probable/unconfirmed)
-Day 57 Alyssa/Kyle (probable/unconfirmed, again)

Flop/derailed twists: 1
-Week 1 Backstage Pass

New and interesting twists: 1
-Week 7 Split house

Fires: 2
-(Ongoing) Turner's vocabulary
-Day 37 Indy's oven mitt on hot cooktop

Broken habitat items: 12
-Dishwasher
-HOH doorbell
-Shower shelf
-Golf ball snow globe toy
-Swiffer (Michael fixed)
-Kitchen/bathroom hall door
-Pantry door
-Trash can
-Cooktop
-Pool cue (by Turner)
-One Dyre Fest porta-potty
-Kitchen floor from Taylor's stiletto

Scandals that spread outside our BB world: 8
-Marvin's reality career
-Taylor's ostracization
-Daniel attacking Taylor
-Omitting Michael's HOH letter from the show
-Kyle's anti-Cookout campaign
-Sid and Nancy costumes
-Kyle's ten second sex
-#StopProtectingKyle

Premature exits: 1
-Paloma

Pre-season cast swaps: 1
-Joseph for Marvin

 

Production Goofs

 1 Wrong show time on Julie's Twitter
 2 Misspelled 'feisty'
 3 Press pics misspelled Paloma's first and last names
 4 CBS cast page requires a few toggles to get to the current cast
 5 CBS ad labeled Pooch as an attorney
 6 Staffers seen in the backyard
 7 After Dark is STILL on P+ main BB page
 8 Veto comp setup seen on feeds
 9 Fly on the Wall site still shows BBAD
10 Anipals on feeds, for quite awhile
11 Press pics misspelled Pooch's last name
12 Julie said $750 million prize
13 The show tweeted wrong show time, and forgot premiere was live
14 Wrong show time on the show's Twitter profile
15 Forgot to add Xavier to 'complete' winners list
16 Wrong day for postponed eviction show
17 P+ tweet used 'commenced' wrong
18 Press pics captioned Kyle as Michael, twice
19 Press pics omitted Terrance ID
20 Subtitle text on 7/27 show misspelled 'bawling'
21 Swinging Diary star light on 7/27 show
22 Adjusted Central time the wrong direction
23 Show went gray for a sec on 7/28 show
24 Julie eviction/nominee mixup 7/28 show
25 Forgot to update browser tab text to 2022
26 Swinging Diary star light on 7/31 show
27 Press pics put Pooch eviction on wrong show
28 Audio glitch on 8/4 live show
29 Mispelled Alyssa's name on 8/4 episode description
30 8/7 show press pics forgot to update day/date
31 Two vetos shown for OTEV comp when a Besties trio played
32 Press pics got Turner's name wrong
33 Tweeted 'down pact' for 'down pat'
34 Youtube misspelled Terrance and Monte
35 8/11 wall comp was technically 2nd endurance
36 Left three vetos on the wall after Besties ended
37 Were/we're error
38 8/14 recap credited Leftovers with Pooch's eviction, which happened before they formed
39 Episode description used 'fast' for 'fest'
40 Staffer heard on feeds
41 Press pics misspelled Jasmine's name
42 Episode description said 'who will joins Terrane'
43 Dyre Fest glimpse on feeds when they were off limits
44 Another Dyre Fest glimpse on feeds
45 Press pics still misspelling Tiffany's last name
46 The show's Twitter didn't update the revised episode time
47 Wrong hashtag
48 Press pics labeled Monte as Michael
49 'No signal' on feeds several times
50 'Veto kind' instead of 'veto king'
51 Upcoming shows info screen glitched on 9/1 show



Season Stats

HOHs in order: Daniel; Jasmine; Turner; Monte; Michael; Taylor; Michael + Terrance; Turner; Michael

Veto winners in order: Michael; Michael; Brittany/Michael; Daniel/Kyle; Michael; Kyle; Brittany + Terrance; Michael

Evictions in order: [Paloma left]; [Nobody]; Pooch 12-0; Ameerah 7-4; Nicole 9-1; Daniel 8-1; Indy 7-1; Jasmine 2-0 + Joseph 2-0; Kyle 5-0

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GAME TWISTS

Week 7 BB FEST SPLIT HOUSE
-Five inside Big Brochella and five outside Dyre Fest
-Each side plays week as usual with HOH, noms, veto, eviction
-The sides play separately, no contact with each other
-Winner & runner-up of starting HOH comp determined HOHs, who were Michael (Big Brochella) and Terrance (Dyre Fest)
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Weeks 4-5 FESTIE BESTIES
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-HOH determines noms but their pair has safety
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-Both nominees come off if veto used

Week 1 BACKSTAGE PASS
-Pooch picked Backstage Boss card at move-in
-He had Week 1 immunity, couldn't compete or vote
-He picked Alyssa, Brittany, Paloma for Backstage
-They couldn't compete, be nominated, or vote
-They weren't guaranteed safety
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"Position the habitat of your hamster somewhere light and airy, away from drafts, heaters, direct sunlight
and other pets. Never put it on or near a television, radio or hi-fi, or a fridge."