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Old 09-06-2009, 12:51 pm
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Default Kevin saw questions during POV when they had technical difficulties

The other sites are a buzz about Kevin admitting to Natalie that when there were technical difficulties during the POV he was able to see the questions.

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Old 09-06-2009, 01:43 pm
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let's not post phone numbers here please

I've always said the best way to complain about anything BB is to contact your local CBS affiliate.. they won't like it as they have nothing to do with the rules, content, feeds, etc but they do have a direct line to The Powers That Be and you can bet they'll forward complaints if they get enough

phoning, emailing, writing to CBS Corporate is a black hole IMO, and contacting Allison Grodner's office is probably the same (at least I've been ignored when I've tried to contact them - but that could just be me lol)
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Old 09-06-2009, 02:10 pm
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Default Re: Kevin saw questions during POV when they had technical difficulties

I was just chatting with someone who worked on production for BB on season 2, and has his own casting business in LA. He and his company will be covering the Vegas party as well. I already tried calling the phone number, and her voicemail is now full.

His advice was 2-fold - #1) post this information on every message board that you can, because BB and Endemol have interns that do nothing but check message boards and chat rooms daily;

#2) - Send a carefully worded fax to CBS Standards and Practices office in NYC. You can google it to get the FAX #.

At the very least, this should be checked out. It would be easy to do so since they have everything on tape - both Nat's convo w/Kevin where he confesses, and all the camera footage of the Veto comp, including the Prelims. So as the OP said - post this info on every message board you can think of.

Kev has played a good game, and if he won fair and square - well, that's the way it goes. However, seeing the questions prior to the comp is a huge advantage, and should be addressed.

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Old 09-06-2009, 02:54 pm
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BB and Endemol have interns that do nothing but check message boards and chat rooms daily
not sure, but I don't think Endemol has much to do with it other than licensing the concept, but I know AGP has spies who drop into chatrooms - I can almost spot them now when they come into mine (they are NOT WELCOME by the way)

Can we get a flashback time for this Kevin admission? that would help immensely.. I can spread the word pretty far with some solid proof
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Old 09-06-2009, 04:00 pm
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It was immediately after the VETO yesterday - Nat & Kev were talking and it's between 2:30 and 3:00PM BB time.

OK - I went back and rewatched it - Kev did not say he saw the actual questions, but said that he knew what kinds of questions would be asked, and that it helped him:

9-5 2:35:42 pm....

Nat: you studied dude
and it paid off.That calendar, it paid off..
Kevin: I was like a crazy mofo.
Nat:that is what you need to do like studying
for an exam
Kevin: and it helped that they had technical errors cause I was like ....oh these are the type of questions i need to think about.

Nat: what do you mean about technical errors?

Kevin: Like we had to stand next to the door and face the wall

Conversation Gets Cut.. trivia

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Old 09-06-2009, 04:15 pm
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I've watched Judge Judy enough to know how pissy she gets about "hearsay" and so I wondered when nobody was providing any Flashback times to verify this supposed convo

unless there's a different convo that says more, Flashback for Sept 5, 2:35pm on Feed 1 says absolutely nothing about cheating, seeing questions, or anything else out of the ordinary:

Kevin: and it helped that they had technical errors cuz I was like oh, these are the type of questions, so this is what I need to think about

Natalie: what do you mean, technical errors?

Kevin: like, we had to stand next to the door and face the wall [cut to fishies]

so it sounds like he merely figured out what type of questions he needed to think about/study during the technical error break, based on whichever ones had already been asked

let's stop panicking over nothing - there are plenty of other *real* issues to question, such as why Natalie's dad works for the same car sales firm that BB April Dowling did last year? I'm just amazed nobody seems to care about that one lol
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Old 09-07-2009, 07:08 am
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Default Re: Kevin saw questions during POV when they had technical difficulties

I checked out several other sites Sunday and all everyone was talking about was Kevin seeing the questions, so it's out there. The fact that they cut to trivia when Kevin started talking about it is suspicious, and if they have interns that read the posts then they do realize we know about it. I have to say I would be surprised if they did anything about it at this point.
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Old 09-07-2009, 03:18 pm
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Default Re: Kevin saw questions during POV when they had technical difficulties

Stardate... I mean Flashback date regarding the PoV comp:
Sept. 6 @ 9:11PM on Feeds 2, 3, & 4.

Jordan was refering to what production apparently said to Michele.

Jordan said, "They told her though when she um, during the competition when she layed every thing out, they told her she had everything right. Just when she was putting it up she missed like, she messed it up I guess in order, and then that's the only reason why she didn't win, or she would have CLEARLY smoked us."
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Old 09-07-2009, 05:06 pm
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Stardate... I mean Flashback date regarding the PoV comp:
Sept. 6 @ 9:11PM on Feeds 2, 3, & 4.

Jordan was refering to what production apparently said to Michele.

Jordan said, "They told her though when she um, during the competition when she layed every thing out, they told her she had everything right. Just when she was putting it up she missed like, she messed it up I guess in order, and then that's the only reason why she didn't win, or she would have CLEARLY smoked us."
lol at "stardate"

this sounds like what she was told after the comp was over, as to why she didn't win it

the three of them were talking about why Michele has to go before the final 3 comps when this was said - it's not like BB was coaching Michele during the actual comp
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Old 09-08-2009, 05:48 pm
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Right, I figured that's what they told her after the comp was over. Sorry if I made it seem otherwise. That was just Jordan's direct quote how she worded it.
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Old 09-08-2009, 06:30 pm
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Default Re: Kevin saw questions during POV when they had technical difficulties

Sorry Dingo, but now that we've seen the actual competition, it's easy to see exactly why Kevin felt that he cheated in this comp., and told Nat more than once that he had cheated. He was facing the door during those technical difficulties, so he had full knowledge of the categories. The two girls were facing the other direction, so they obviously did not have the same advantage as Kevin. IMO this was cheating, because he had an advantage the others did not and chose not to call it to the attention of Production.
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Old 09-07-2009, 05:03 pm
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I checked out several other sites Sunday and all everyone was talking about was Kevin seeing the questions, so it's out there. The fact that they cut to trivia when Kevin started talking about it is suspicious, and if they have interns that read the posts then they do realize we know about it. I have to say I would be surprised if they did anything about it at this point.
it's "out there" because people want to believe it, but nobody can provide any proof

they cut to trivia/fishies/whatever because that's what they do whenever they talk about production

unless you have proof with a flashback date/time/feed please stop posting about this non-incident on this forum, thanks
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