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moviegal
08-30-2008, 11:31 am
Asked Dan if they wanted to go on to the next level, Dan said it was Memphis' decision, Memphis said that he has Dan's back, but if he takes him off he has to stop his "antics.":eek:

First_time_fan
08-30-2008, 11:32 am
wow! This really changes the game if the main target gets taken off.

fluffyredtabby
08-30-2008, 11:33 am
man it sucks. now they are gonna send renny home.:(

Edieann
08-30-2008, 04:23 pm
I'm just sick about Renny going! I really hope she gets ac..and that the hurricane doesn't hurt her or her family..now I don't care who wins as long as it's NOT Jerry!:(

blindwilliedunn
08-30-2008, 06:32 pm
idle speculation:
Memphis vs. Renny, vs. Keesha, vs. Jerry, vs. Dan

Ollie -
Renny/ Keesha/ Jerry/ Memphis

Michele -
Renny/ Memphis?/ Jerry?/ Memphis

April - (may be overestimating her MemphisHate)
(despite the nom/eviction) Renny/ (holding nose) Keesha/ Jerry/ Dan?

Libra -
Renny/ (with April holding her nose) Keesha?/ Jerry? tough call/ Dan?

Obviously, Memphis can't get Jerry out this week. He needs to send both Keesha and Renny out to avoid them voting for the other in the F2, but he'll almost certainly lose Renny's vote if he looks responsible for evicting her this week. If Jerry really believes he has a F2 deal with Memphis and doesn't make it, Memphis jeopardizes that vote as well, despite Jerry's DanHate (certainly losing J's vote to K or R).

He's a bit doomed, but it does seem his best scenario is sitting next to Dan, unless he concludes he can get Dan out and keep his vote and make others responsible for evictions over the next three weeks. Keesha's a possibility if A & L vote against her, Michele becomes the wild card, doesn't seem likely.

Its dubious to include "sentimental factor" and "Jerry" in the same sentence, but I don't know if Memphis wants to gamble with that. Ollie, Renny, Dan and Keesha may all feel betrayed depending on how it goes from here. April would seem a lock for J. Any of them might give it to the old man just for the hell of it, though he hasn't played the I-need-the-money-for-my-wife's-health-care card much if at all and he doesn't seem to be hurting IRL. Might not be a bad option after all.

fluffyredtabby
08-31-2008, 06:08 am
I'm just sick about Renny going! I really hope she gets ac..and that the hurricane doesn't hurt her or her family..now I don't care who wins as long as it's NOT Jerry!:(


I am soooo with you, but I felt the same way about Dick...and look what happened! It always seems that this game ends up with people I don't want to win, winning...Oh why...Oh why do I keep watching....LOL! :p:D

TheQuest
08-31-2008, 06:53 am
It looks like Memphis will save Dan and that probably makes sense.

Renny has stated she wants Memphis out. It's to Memphis' advantage to break up Keesha and Renny anyway. If he loses Dan he's only got Jerry left.

Assuming there's a Memphis, Dan, Keesha Jerry final four, it could play out this way:

Jerry can't win HOH, so he has got to know he's getting nominated yet again next time.

Memphis wins HOH, his noms will probably be Jerry and Keesha. Dan votes out Jerry most likely.

Dan wins HOH, his noms will probably be Jerry and Keesha as well. Memphis votes out Jerry finally.

Keesha wins HOH, her noms will probably be Dan and Jerry. Memphis will vote out Jerry.

Dan and Memphis are looking good, Jerry and Keesha are in danger.

Unless Memphis gets stupid and allows Dan to go. Then it plays out this way:

Memphis wins HOH, he noms Renny and Jerry. Keesha will not vote out Renny, Jerry goes..Keesha is left with her ally.

Keesha wins HOH. She noms Memphis and Jerry. Renny votes out Memphis like she wanted to weeks ago.

Renny wins HOH, she noms Memphis and Dan. Keesha eliminates either, probably whoever Renny wants.

Jerry and Keesha are safer with Renny in the house.

kmc2410
08-31-2008, 09:51 am
But if Renny goes up, they may turn on Jerry and vote Keesha out because remember, next week Jerry can't get HOH and he will for sure be voted out next week...

no doubt about that

Monty924
08-31-2008, 12:30 pm
Memphis will likely throw this next HOH because of his final 2 deals with all three of the remaining hamsters. If he puts up any combo of the three he's busted.

moviegal
08-31-2008, 02:26 pm
Memphis will likely throw this next HOH because of his final 2 deals with all three of the remaining hamsters. If he puts up any combo of the three he's busted.

Actually, this is the only HOH that he could do that and it wouldn't hurt him - because the POV is wayyy more important this week.

Monty924
08-31-2008, 06:28 pm
Actually, this is the only HOH that he could do that and it wouldn't hurt him - because the POV is wayyy more important this week.

Yes, and that also. HOH is nothing at final 4 - the POV is everything. Case in point - S8. :)

Hanto
08-31-2008, 06:45 pm
Yes, and that also. HOH is nothing at final 4 - the POV is everything. Case in point - S8. :)

And BB7, Jedi Janie famously evicted Will at final four.

ITA - Every season, the POV at Final 4 is crucial. Being HOH is important, as it guarantees your safety to Final 3, but being nominated means nothing. (It always cracks me up when they overplay being nominated at final 4 - I can still hear Sheila's voice: yew know whut? I can't believe I got nominated! I'm 46 year old! Knuw that!)

Monty924
08-31-2008, 06:54 pm
And BB7, Jedi Janie famously evicted Will at final four.

ITA - Every season, the POV at Final 4 is crucial. Being HOH is important, as it guarantees your safety to Final 3, but being nominated means nothing. (It always cracks me up when they overplay being nominated at final 4 - I can still hear Sheila's voice: yew know whut? I can't believe I got nominated! I'm 46 year old! Knuw that!)

:D Yes! You should add "single mother" to that. I should edit my opinion though. HOH is important to one's own safety and that is about it... other than that the other three are at the mercy of the POV. Memphis runs the risk of the blood on his hands if he's the one who has to nominate the two. He'll throw it!

cherryred
08-31-2008, 07:38 pm
The HOH isn't 'nothing' - it's the only safe person at final 4. That's not NOTHING

Monty924
08-31-2008, 07:41 pm
The HOH isn't 'nothing' - it's the only safe person at final 4. That's not NOTHING

Correct... see my last post. The only one truly safe is the HOH holder and then the POV holder has all the power. :)

blindwilliedunn
09-01-2008, 01:36 am
Memphis needs to be careful. Renny could poison the well for him in the Jury House. And while MB's best bet for $500k might be Dan, Dan's might be Jerry. There is no reason to think Dan wouldn't cut Memphis loose for personal gain.