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piperyoung
03-22-2008, 11:11 am
Well, quite a turn. I enjoyed the interactions of Team Pink when they were couples, and the week after they were broken up as well, when the Sharon/Chelsia/Joshuah/James alliance came forth. I cant stand to listen to Sheila, and am not a fan of Natalie, so that pretty much left the 4 members of Team Pink.

It was clear early on that James had a thing for Chelsia, much moreso than she had for him. Then when they became actually couple-y, it seemed like she had feelings for him, but it was still questionable. When they were o longer a team, James was visibly upset at the thought of losing Chelsia to the other side. But during the week that James was backdoored & evicted Chelsia was supportive, and let her feelings show thru a little more.

After he was evicted, we would have seen a very strong Chelsia working closely w/James & Sharon, but very independent at the same time. However, James came back, and as Chelsia stated yesterday voting him back in was her worst move. She became a target by proxy as a way to knock out a strong member of Team Pink, if it couldnt be James because of her relationship with him. In much the same way that Matt was a casualty because of his bond with Natalie (one sided as it may have been), Chelsia will suffer the same fate.

But back to the point of this post. On Monday of this week when James' tenure as HoH was coming to an end, he set up this plan to make it look like Chelsia was breaking away from Team Pink. She followed thru with the plan, and it got James what he wanted, a split vote. But the damage was done because James had already started to talk bad about Chelsia (although this was all just a part of the ruse) to some in the house. After Adam won HoH James has turned more and more into what Matt was, the very reasons James wanted so much to evict Matt.

He has made fun of Chelsia nonstop for losing the HoH, and thus dooming Team pink to losing a member. While he thinks it comes off as cute and joke-y, there is a mean undertone that Chelsia has ovbiously felt. It got on her nerves, but she held out hope for the PoV. All the while, James & Joshuah, the two people she is closest to in the house are busy throwing her overboard as fast as they can.

James complains how Chelsia makes him a target because of their relationship, so he has no problem with her going up and going home. After two days of baiting from himself, Joshuah, and Shelia she finally snapped last nite, just like they were all hoping. Then James became Matt immediately going upstairs and trying to ask that her actions not be held against him, and going to Chelsia to admonish her actions (that he encouraged so many times in the past week).

Yes, having her in the house makes him a targer because of their relationship. She knows that as well as he does. But he should be doing everyting possible to keep her in there... after all, Chelsia voted him back in the house. He has a second chance to do anything he wants in there, which apparently involves becoming Matt. Chelsia wont get a second chance, and the only reason she is being targeted now is because of James. She knows this. But he has not comforted her while she was breaking down after PoV, he has continued to make fun of her crappy performance in the PoV, he has continued to talk about her behind her back and make fun of her, and he has become the thing he was supposed to be so against - Matt.

We know that James & Chelsia are playing for themselves and shouldnt have let personal feelings get in the way, but it is what Big Brother set this year up to be. Chelsia has come down from being the strong girl to a joke between James and whichever guy he is talking to. James has gone from being the guy smitten with someone to being a total jerk and a user.

So congrats James on breaking down the one person who in all likelihood would have been ok with your porn thing (outside of Josh). Congrats on turning her into a laughingstock. Congrats on becoming the jerk that you hated.

At least last year with Dick, we knew he was doing things to try to get back his relationship w/Daniele. That was hard to watch. This is meanness for meanness sake, and just as hard, or harder, to watch.

moviegal
03-22-2008, 12:09 pm
Excellent post, piperyoung. I too liked Team Pink, and even with all of his drama, I think that Joshuah is mostly hilarious (even though, just like all of them, he crosses the line sometimes). I think that Ryan said it best - you just don't come into a house like this and tell people things that they can use against you later. Although I think his feelings for Chel are genuine, he has been in full game mode since the very beginning - and everybody in the house underestimated him. Voting somebody 5-3 back into the house after just evicting them 5-1 has to be the stupidest move in BB history - even stupider than Marcellas not taking himself off the block after winning POV, James falling for the "pawn" ploy in back-to-back seasons, or Kaysar not putting Dr. Will against Boogie (Bogie as Nat calls him) during the second week of All-Stars.

Luckieirish21
03-22-2008, 07:01 pm
I too was a James fan and I waited for weeks to "out" myself as a fan. I had hardly taken my fingers off my keyboard after my confession (I was totally in the minority being a James fan to begin with) and bing, bang, boom he ruined it for me! I felt like an idiot! I had been teetering back and forth with exposing myself as a fan and I finally did and the jackass had to go and make me feel like an idiot for being a fan to begin with. I vow to no longer have a favorite in this season or any other. I will be in a neutral state from now on and not make an idiot of myself again. THANKS JAMES!! :cool:

supes414
03-22-2008, 09:45 pm
I think a lot of people in James' real life feel a lot like you guys do right now. You think he's a good guy. A little crazy maybe, but a good person and then you let yourself trust him and you find out he stole your mothers engagement ring and pawned it to buy beer or drugs. Be glad he's a "character" on a show in your lives and keep your daughters away from guys like him if you can!
I've never been a fan of James, but I hope you were never attacked for rooting for him. Teased a little, maybe, but not attacked:p! I think a lot of people have a James in their lives and keep him as a "dirty little secret" until he burns them.

Cherokee
03-23-2008, 01:31 am
Yes, I was a James fan too, at the start. He came across innocent, really wanting to win the game and really into Chelsia.
......and I liked Chelsia too. But now I think there are just really gross people, James shaving his pubes and making it into a mustache......yah, real hot, hes a total ego-maniac ......him and Chelsia going at it in the sexual sense whenever they can with her parents watching.........classy! And seeing James pics/videos of gay porn, well thats another story, basically he can lie, lie, lie all he wants....and nobody seems to care. The producers will keep him to the end for "entertainment" sake....gag........if gay porn and sleeping with Chelsia is entertainment, perhaps time to give up on big brother (last season was WAYYY bette).........NOBODY is who they seem to be....I wonder what Chelsia's dirty secret it......lord knows she must have one or two or three or more. If I were her dad, I would be disgusted with her behaviour in the house.......what? Can't hold back your hormones for a month of two? Guess not, guess its best to have sex with a guy that has sex with other men......REALLLL classy Chelsia, you're NOT going to be coming out of this house looking like the good girl you looked like when you came in. Good job girl! NOT I think you will be tainted now and perhaps shunned by family members.
Anyhow, James and Chelsia need to go, enough of those two. There are egos and porn shots need to be gone..............................BB9 clean up your act. Didn't know the show was titled "big brother sex free for all" and if you do porn in your spare time, well, welcome to the show..........And for the record, I'd be just as disgusted if James did porn with women.........what the h*ll is the criteria for getting on this show? Apparently none, pick a person walking buy, don't check their past and hey, you're on the show.
As of now I'm rooting for Natalie. At least her "porn" if you can even call it that is posing in bikinis....she not a porn whore............go Nat!

Crazy
03-23-2008, 04:19 am
I hate to say it, but I saw this coming a mile away. I have always been against Team Pink, and James in particular.

The moral of this story is that you can't flaunt a strong alliance, Adam knew too easily that he had to nominate two or three of the JJSC.

Meanwhile the scret alliance of Josh and Ryan is the strongest in the house, with James an easy target and good girl Sharon suffering collateral damage.

Semi-Famous CC
03-23-2008, 08:31 pm
I was NEVER a "James fan"...liked Chelsea (in the beginning) and almost puked when they teamed her up with him. He just struck me as a real loser and a real user to begin with. Guess it's my age showing!
BTW: I think I am enjoying the interaction between y'all as much or more than I do watching BB. Thanks for letting me in.

storygirl
03-23-2008, 09:10 pm
At first I was hoping I would like James, as he definitely looks like he marches to the beat of a different drummer. Sad truth is, he's only there to market himself. And obviously he'll do just about anything for a buck.

My take is - he's a poser.

d70005
03-23-2008, 10:58 pm
heres a recent quote from just a few moments ago at the pool table


Adam: RE: James: He has to go back home
Ryan: yea he has to go back homeless

but watch he has been winning everything. BB might have to add a twist to keep him, it he loses HOH.